Published on November 23, 2003 By digital_trucker In WinCustomize Talk
Using SkinStudio Pro, when I set the titlebar text to be displayed below the window, it gets clipped on the bottom and won't display correctly. I've got a fat bottom border for it to display on, but it won't display past about 12 pixels below the window.
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on Nov 23, 2003
[Hint]

It's all in the hips.. It's all in the hips..

Oh no.. another movie..

It's all in the content margins.. It's all in the content margins..
on Nov 23, 2003
You don't understand, the text automatically gets clipped about 12 pixels down from the top of the border..no matter where I set the top of the text. I don't see any parameter in the UIS to change it.
I don't see that particular parameter mentioned in the UIS online reference either. Also, if I set the text to 'below window', SkinStudio still displays the top border in that section. The preview displays the text just fine, but when it's applied it goes haywire. Try it with a fat bottom border and you'll see what I'm getting at.
on Apr 01, 2004
Well, here we are 4 months later and the bug still goes unfixed (and unacknowledged). Even though it's been independently verified. Here's a quick SIMULATED screenshot of something along the lines of what I'd like to do, which is unfortunately impossible without the bugfix...

http://pws.chartermi.net/~digital_trucker/test_gauges/WishlistWBA.jpg

I hear through the grapevine that the bug is known about and being ignored because I'm the only one running into it. It's interesting that this is the case, especially in view of the recent postings about originality in the skinning community.

tsk tsk
on Apr 01, 2004
I ran into the same obstacle recently. Didn't know it was a known bug, guess I missed this thread the first time around. It would be nice if it was fixed.



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on Apr 02, 2004
Thank all that's good and holy! I'm not alone anymore!
on Apr 02, 2004
I finally got the straight dope on this. It apparently has to do with the way WB renders the windows in memory before drawing. It's going to require quite a complicated fix, it appears...so it looks like it'll be a while.

Y'know...it's amazing how much hate and discontent can be avoided by answering a question in a timely manner.

Thanks, Brad!
on Apr 03, 2004
I am glad this thread came to light ....I was just starting a new WBSkin with the titlebar text and buttons on the bottom. Not only was the text clipped like you mentioned, but the titlebar buttons wouldn't show anywhere except in SkinStudio....It didn't matter wether I used the default button alignment or used one relative to the bottom
on Apr 03, 2004
iirc, if you want to put buttons anywhere other than the top bar, you have to use the UIS2 format. I'm not completely certain about this either, but I believe that in order for anything to show up on top of the borders (buttons, text, etc)...the border behind it can't be transparent. So if you're using UIS2 and have an opaque border, you *should* be able to put the buttons anywhere you like.
on Apr 03, 2004
I was using a UIS2 format and was just playing around with button placement and was using a basic single color .bmp frame created in MS Paint. I got the buttons to work fine on the side frames, but couldn't find them on the bottom frame even though everything looked okay in SkinStudio. Do you know of any WB skin that has the text and titlebar buttons on the bottom so that I could tear it apart to figure out how the margins were set?
on Apr 03, 2004
Putting the text on the bottom is impossible (for now) without a corresponding wide top bar. That'll prevent the text from getting clipped. As far as the button thing, meet me in IRC on the #stardock channel and I'll hok you up with the button thing.
on Apr 04, 2004
According to Brad, the text can also be put on the bottom of the window by using a text button. I'm having trouble getting it to work though. Anyone care to reveal how to get a text button to work?
on Apr 04, 2004
Okay, I got the text button to actually display text.

New problem: getting the button to change it's width according to the width of the window. Obviously this has to be done with a scripted button. I admit it...scripting has me stumped. Anyone familiar with scripting buttons want to step up to the plate?
on Apr 04, 2004
Care to share the secret of the Text Button?



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on Apr 04, 2004
Button Type = Text Layer (still have to specifiy an image for the text to be visible - even though you won't see the image)

In the text buttons section, you have to specify all the parameters. Doesn't appear to use defaults.
on Apr 04, 2004
When you've got this sorted it would be useful to save it here https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WCS&id=187649#266704 for future reference.
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